March 27, 2005

I am Curious (George) Good internet porn.

I have never found southern cali mass produced porn to be appealing, exploit driven amateur porn is, well, exploiting, and most of the rest of the pornography online suffers in one way or another by either seeming to fake/clean (which includes most hooker based porn sites) or too abusive. Where are online porn sites with hot couples fucking - presented in a mature way that's sexually appealing and empowering to both men and women?

  • Buried with Jimmy Hoffa under a unicorn farm.
  • Like this Spanish site?
  • nanas for moneyjane, first belly laugh of the day. It's a noble quest ian but you might want to set your sights lower and go for the Holy Grail first.
  • OK, in the name of research **NSFW** This is the first result ya get when googling "empowering porn". Nekkid vegans
  • I find Yahoo groups cater for all flavours... [watches thread with interest...]
  • Just a good old-fashioned beastiality site wher the pigs are treated with respect.
  • ))))))))))))))), moneyjane!
  • What about books? Story of the Eye, any Anais Nin and etc ... can we suggest hot lit - or are you specific in your inquiry (he asks without snark and hopefully without pretension)?
  • Check out fleshbot.com it's sorta like a slashdot for porn, so you'll be able to peruse mature reviews of pr0n...
  • This is a little tangential, but does anyone care to speculate why the market exists as it does? What invisible hand is guiding it? (other than the one you have tucked in your pants.) I'm sure the question could easily be dismissed with an off-the-cuff "men are pigs" statement, but that doesn't really explain all the racy "romance" novels that the women's market consumes. I've had the chance to glance through a few and they seem just as banal and formulaic as a 15 part photo spread - Spirited, but chaste young woman is 'forced' into sex she was really looking forward to by a bold, stern and powerful male who is either wealthy or a misunderstood badboy of some sort. Where are all the stories about the nice guy you all claim you want? The one who showed up when he said he would and brought flowers? Why is it that women's porn is ok for the 7-11, but something as tame a Playboy needs to be hidden behind the counter? I suspect that there is an underlying shame/guilt factor at work here. In order for people to really let go sexually, they need to achieve a little emotional distance. Guys generally do it by fantasizing about degrading women thereby removing performance anxiety and years of 'women are delicate flowers' indoctrination. Assuming the role of a powerful force who plays by his own rules and gets what he wants pretty much requires the needs and opinions of others to be somewhat discounted - who cares how she judges you if she's just a ho anyway? Women in turn rationalize that they are still 'good girls' because some bad man 'made her do it'. They practically line up to reward a libertine as long as they think they have a shot at being the one who tames him. Bonus points for her because she is so sexy he simply couldn't control himself any longer. How many of you women have chosen a largely passive role as opposed to being a proactive co-conspiritor?, ie., said no when what you really meant was, I want to, but I don't want you to think I'm a slut. How many of you have never gotten specific about what you really like/want because asking for it directly somehow spoils the fantasy of the charming prince who will come and magically fill your every need? How many of you were in such denial of your own sexuality that you couldn't even find your own orgasms until you were in your mid 20s? What is that all about anyway? If you don't know your own clit, how are those of us who've never had one supposed to understand how it works? Even if we were handed a manual and a flashlight, the moon and stars still have to be positioned just right. Forbidden activities of all sorts ups the ante further because they are risky and transgressive. Take away the power dynamic and sexual tension fades. Respectful sex just isn't hot for anybody. Understand I'm not declaring this The Way It Is or defending a personal preference. I'm just noting my 20+ years of broad observations and speculating a bit. I'm actually looking forward to hearing what the rest of you think.
  • Beautiful Agony is, well, beautiful. It's subscription, but there are a few free mpegs... and if I were ever to subscribe to a porn site, this would be the one.
  • Oh christ, I can't stand all this masageinistic talk. Twins are my favorite.
  • haven't heard anything about massage.
  • Let's have a mofi meetup where we fuck bitches
  • Leave goofyfoot's dog out of this.
  • Guys generally do it by fantasizing about degrading women thereby removing performance anxiety and years of 'women are delicate flowers' indoctrination. Speak for yourself, pal.
  • Fuck For Forest bills itself as "Environmental Porn". You might recall their celebrated live "performance" (NSFW) during a set by band The Cumshots at Norway's The Quart Festival last June. Of course, this all depends on your definition of hot couples. But what's not hot about saving the environment?
  • Try Jane's Guide. They have a great directory of erotica, porn, and adult shopping sites that are hand indexed and reviewed. The site descriptions are fairly comprehensive, and rate where the site falls with regards to originality, quality, and amount of advertising.
  • apparently you missed this bit... I'm not declaring this The Way It Is or defending a personal preference. I'm just noting my 20+ years of broad observations and speculating a bit. Count me as someone who prefers sex be something I am doing with someone as opposed to doing something to someone. I'm not asking you to speculate on my proclivities, I'm looking for your theories as to why the narrative and subtext in it's current form is so popular.
  • Where are online porn sites with hot couples fucking - presented in a mature way that's sexually appealing and empowering to both men and women? Ok, first of all you need to define what you consider to be "sexually appealing AND empowering for BOTH men and women". Because IMHO every individual reacts differently to different kinds of porn and there's no way you could find something that will be appealing and empowering for everyone. For example some people are sexually aroused by artsy nudes and find it sexually appealing and empowering. Finding good porn is like finding good art. Some people find most art distasteful and only a very little percentage of it, probably only the works of a particular artist, appeal to them. You need to explore and search for what appeals to your particular taste because you won't probably find anyone who knows exactly what you want. And, trust me, there's probably something that you will find appealing out there.
  • Oh, I second kimdog's recomendation of Jane's Guide.
  • Kimdog RUNS a porn site y'know. I'll be FPPing this in a second, but: http://privatebooth.blogspot.com/
  • This thread scandalizes me.
  • Why not look to the theater of cinema? I think what you are looking for is more art than pornography, which ironically is both more publicly acceptable and more liberal !
  • Actually, it isn't porn, exactly. I post stories about sex that have been represented to me as true. It's a pretty eclectic sampling of sexual experience and behaviors. The good, the bad, and the odd.
  • It's more pathetic to fantasize about someone loving you than it is to fantasize about someone fucking you.
  • With the current specialization of all kinds of porn like that of any other commercial activities, I'd be surprised if you can't find just what tickles your fancy. Hey, if there are sites devoted to women crushing origami figures with their bare feet over the back of a bound male bathed in honey while he recites the alphabet in german and such, your requeriments shouldn't be too difficult to fulfill... And, of course, if there's nothing suitable, well... when you want something done, you have to do it yourself.
  • mmmuttly, the reason is because 90% of people are idiots
  • It's more pathetic to fantasize about someone loving you than it is to fantasize about someone fucking you. LOLOLOL
  • Kimdog: you are a porn mistress and there is no use denying it. She has the tapes in the basement.
  • Monkeyfilter: It's more pathetic to fantasize about someone loving you.
  • /me keeps trying to comment in this thread, but then follows kimdog's link to Jane's Guide. ..startin to get a bit sore
  • Monkeyfilter: It's more pathetic to fantasize about someone loving you Corollary: Monkeyfilter: As good as fantasizing about someone fucking you.
  • So is taglining yourself the equivalent of public masturbation? 'Cause. Y'know. AS needs a little release here, apparently. (I'm still laughing [in my head] over the first comment, never mind.)
  • Yeah. It's the most beautiful derail I've ever seen.
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  • hand indexed and reviewed awesome.
  • Which reminds me of something... before I was a sex blog editor, I managed an imports store. We used to get glass vases with a sticker label that read "Mouth blown, hand finished".
  • The internet is for porn.
  • It's more pathetic to fantasize about someone loving you than it is to fantasize about someone fucking you. This is why we substitue fantasies of fucking for what we really want. It is possible for even an ugly loser like myself to find someone to fuck, but someone to love? Or more accurately, someone to be loved by? That is the impossible, and that is why we fantasize about fucking instead of about love.
  • Why does this remind me of that episode of the Twilight Zone where that woman constantly sees that grubby hitchhiker (Goin' my way, Lady?) no matter how far away she drives? Am I dead?
  • Not as far as you are currently aware.