February 28, 2009

Gobekli Tepe: Do these mysterious stones mark the site of the Garden of Eden? [Via]
  • More links here.
  • The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race. by Jared Diamond
  • That find is incredible. The fact that it is so much older than any other similar discovery is incredible. But calling it the Garden of Eden is completely idiotic. You will be hard pressed to find a biblical scholar who views anything in the bible pre-Abraham as being even remotely historical. Everything pre-Abraham is considered to be a myth. So if the Garden of Eden is not a myth, then we should see what the bible says about the Garden of Eden. Hmmmm....it appears that Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden of Eden. They were not allowed back, and the Garden of Eden was hidden from others. So, it would appear that Adam and Eve built these structures in the link. Just the two of them. Using all of the building skills they had acquired while there. I liked the comment beneath the article praising the discovery, but likening the chances of it being the Garden of Eden as being the same as it being Superman's Fortress of Solitude. On the other hand, I can understand why they do this. Archeology can use the attention and money. What better way to get those things than to claim you found a mythical biblical place?
  • Oh, way to take all the mystery out, 'nockle. Weird, poly, I just started "Collapse." Looks to be good, but not sure if it's as good as G,G,&S Just imagine a band of savages, exhausted from searching for nuts or chasing wild animals, suddenly grazing for the first time at a fruit-laden orchard or a pasture full of sheep. How many milliseconds do you think it would take them to appreciate the advantages of agriculture? being a fierce nomadic warrior society? Amirite Genghis?
  • BlueHorse - let me know how you get on. I started Collapse but it just never hooked me the way G,G & S did.
  • Gobekli Tepe stands configured like a buried house of cards...Even with parts made of stone, that's only why they survived as a sort of testament from witnesses to some great debacle. Art as therapy, maybe? But then WE need therapy too - for the crash of the hyper-consumer economy. *submits Civil Works proposal for a new commemorative monument*
  • A stone pyramid of currencies, delicately balanced and built over a fault line, somewhere in Utah.
  • Dan: A huge house of (credit) cards.
  • From the bottom of the article, it is noted that Tom Cox, the author of the story, is coming out with a book soon. What a coincidence. "The Genesis Secret by Tom Knox is published by Harper Collins on March 9, priced £6.99. To order a copy (P&P free), call 0845 155 0720." On the other hand, if the Christians could be convinced that this was the actual site of the Garden of Eden, then the Atheists can set about casting God out of it.
  • Also, common thought among Biblical scholars is that the Old Testament was 'composed' somewhere between 1200BC and 200BC, with writing itself developing sometime more recently than approx 4000BC. If the Gobeki Teple site was the Garden Of Eden of the Old Testament, and it is indeed 13000 years old, then its details would have had to survive thousands of years of oral transmission to be recorded in the Old Testament. Methinks not.
  • Serius, seriously? Meanwhile, in Nevada they dated temple like megalithic petroglyphs to the same age as Gobekli Tepe.
  • More, including a wall with ducks walking (see eighth photo).
  • Cool.
  • Visited Gobekli Tepe on the Great Turkey Tour of 2000, which was way cool, but have never been to the petroglyphs in Nevada. Looks like it's less than 450 miles to the petroglyphs in Nevada. **ROAD TRIIIIP**