February 12, 2007

Curious George: Sankyo for your help. Monkeying around with an old movie projector and roont it!

I have a formerly working 8mm/super8 movie projector which goes by the glorious name of Sankyo dualux 1000. I jabbed inside its privates with a brush to try to remove a giant dustbunny, and a springy thingy popped out. Do any of you monkeys own such a projector, so you could tell me where the heck this springy thingy belongs? Much obliged! (I posted this to AskMe, too.)

  • Haw haw! You bust it! I'm telling mom! sorry, nothing constructive to add - can you download instructions of the web maybe?
  • Found a dutch version of the manual (might help??)
  • Thanks, Zaphod! I have the English manual, but unfortunately there are no pictures of the spring or its location. *gives kitfisto a wedgie*
  • You know, there are only two things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other peoples' cultures, and the Dutch.
  • No help here, just fond memories of my parents' Montgomery Ward Super 8 camera/projector. Mom used to play the Christmas movies backwards and say, "Look, the kids were so bad we made 'em rewrap their presents and give 'em back."
  • Get a Mac.
  • I'll have you know there's one on the way today! Alas- it's for my sprog, but perhaps I'll be allowed to play with it a bit.
  • Haha I was just kidding Macs are stupid.
  • LOL!
  • In other words, I have no idea where that springy thing goes. Did you try asking it?
  • Alas I know not where the spring thingy goes, good fishy, good ticky, fish tick. Yet many geeks go where the Intertubes goes, geek fishy, tick geeky, geek glick. And so I would Google A newsgroup or two And post in their forums And never fling pooooooooo- For it's certain they know What they springy things dooooooOO- Good fishy, fish ticky, fish tick!
  • Monkeyfilter: I jabbed inside its privates with a brush to try to remove a giant dustbunny Pardon me, GramMa... I couldn't resist
  • Maybe fishtick monkey-eth too much! How about this site?? - Sankyo in Japan
  • No, no, no. Sankyo in Japan is ありがとう.
  • Well apparently the dualux 1000 is the bestselling unit for video transfer. And a belt drive for it is here. Plus it looks like they're not exactly cheap or nothin'. Maybe one of Super-8 Man's links will prove fruitful.
  • Sorry to hear of your woes. I've got nothing except I'm rootin' for you.
  • Thanks all! I'll see what Super-8 man can do - nice find, petes!
  • No, no, no. Sankyo in Japan is ありがとう. *claps*
  • Hey hey hey. Could we wait until fish tick solves her problem before we start monkeying around in her curious george? I know it's all in the spirit of fun and comradery, but it's still not very nice.
  • Um, I think I sort of encouraged it, Mr. K, so it's okay by me. In fact one of them even apologized by email. But it wasn't a very sincere apology - *sniffle*. They wouldn't be doing this if it was a Serious Personal Problem sort of question. Although I might.
  • But thanks, Mr. K!
  • I figured you were pretty cool with it, fish tick, but it still seemed... wrong, or uncool, or something. I'm pretty sure it's in everyone's best interests if horseplay starts up only after the problem has been dealt, even if the problem isn't a Serious Personal Problem, and even if the poster doesn't really mind. It's like, my mother wouldn't be bothered at all if she cooked me a meal and I didn't bother to thank her. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't thank her. I should show her courtesy whether or not it's necessary. In fact, I think it might be more important to show courtesy when it's not necessary, if that makes any sense. If you only have manners when you have to, I'm not sure that actually is manners. I'm not trying to call out everyone's manners. I just didn't think it was very cool to see a CG with ~20 comments, and only one or two of them trying to answer the question. That just feels bad, you know?
  • Well, it is a pretty obscure question, and I really didn't have much hope that I'd get an answer here, so the fact is that the problem could well have never been "dealt with" at all! In fact, I got more helpful responses here than at t'other place (one there!), and I sort of appreciated having some jolliness along on my ill-fated quest. I know if it was somebody else's question, and I had something useful to add, I wouldn't be put off from doing so by a few wedgies and some snickering.
  • No the snickers thread is over there. *keeps filming*
  • Does this Sankyo no longer work due to the springy thing popping out? Or it wasn't working to begin with?
  • It was working. The lack of the springy thingy has caused it to not work properly.
  • Ok. I may be on to a lead, but it's iffy at the moment. I will let you know if I come up with any gold.
  • *holds breath, turns blue*
  • Please, please, inhale... exhale... inhale...
  • Make up your mind!
  • Ok, now exhale... Ok, I don't have an answer yet, but I do have promising news [this coming from someone who has experience restoring this particular model, and has one to look at for reference]: it looks to me like a piece that would hold a gear in place it would hold a gear down i'd expect it to be inside one of the takeup or supply arms, not in the main body of the projector i'll try to look at a machine this afternoon
  • fish tick, are you able to open up the arms of the projector - to see if there is a part like that in them?
  • I could later, but I can also tell you that this piece jumped out at me from the aperture area while I was mucking about with a brush in there.
  • I did see that you mentioned that in the AskMe thread. The person I have spoken with seems fairly certain that the piece you describe (and show) did not come from the main body of the projector, but from the arm. Perhaps it fell down into the area near the aperature? At any rate, he asked if you might be able to open up the arm. He is going to try and do so as well.
  • fish tick, check your email. I just sent you some contact info for the person I've been mentioning above. Best 'o luck!
  • Merci, smt.
  • I love it when a monkeyplan comes together! Keep us posted, fishie.
  • Followup: I sat down tonight with a luxo lamp, magnifying glass, dentist mirror, tweezers and a mess o' screwdrivers. It took a couple of hours of very treacherous dismantling and tweaking, but I finally figured out where everything went all by myself, and now it works - woo-hoo! I hope to be converting old movies (a couple of them much older than me!) to dvds very soon.
  • About time! I'm so glad it's working.
  • Good to hear, fish tick! As far as I'm concerned, the approach you took is the best way. Sounds like a fun and rewarding project! Kinda makes me wish I had some old reels myself...