April 21, 2005
Download the Columbine Massacre RPG!!1 one. It's 23mB and virus free, in the manner of RPGs of old like Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy, but instead of sand monsters and magic spells, cafeteria tables and crying teenagers.
I am sick and tired of the whole "old videogames" craze. It's 2005, and everybody is sick of this retro bullshit and your lame ass fake vintage tshirts.
So, uh, why'd you post it?
so everyone else could share the pain.
angry modem?
Kewl!
Glad I didn't post this retro bullshit.
This is pretty fucking tasteless shit.
I expect AS is waiting for everyone to find this post objectionable so he can beat us o'er the head with some more mock-pretentiousness.
We could either gratify him with a long drawn out brawl, about this post or its subject matter, and it will confirm to him that he is so much better than us. Or, we could simply ignore it and frustrate him. One of these outcomes is far more likely than the other, and I would like to advocate for the less likely one.
um.
to quote the daisy may thread....
Monkeyfilter: Metafilter.
[this is extra bad]
and haven't we already had enough long drawn out brawls for one week?
Oh, I get it. It's not ok to label your post "Curious George" with no extra information but is IS ok to joke about the massacre of innocent teenagers. I get it.
Wolof, perhaps when that guy called you that term you seemingly hate, he was right? You asshole.
Tracicle, delete my account. Best of the web this aint.
(with apologies)
First:
Smo, grow up. This isn't even flameout material.
Second:
I vote for this to be moved onto the eek! page.
Smo, wolof didn't post the link.
You asshole.
Wow!
Oh, I get it. It's not ok to label your post "Curious George" with no extra information but is IS ok to joke about the massacre of innocent teenagers. I get it.
damn straight. i hate teenagers.
Smo is almost certainly referencing some other famous flameout. This "best of the web this ain't" line has been used before, though I can't recall where exactly. Doris?
is this a cry for help? maybe you guys could send actuallysettle a great, big e-hug!
paging SideDish and tracicle, we need banhammer (?) and kittens to aisle 8190...
So these two attention-starved idiots walk into a bar . . .
Yes, it was Doris. That post was only like 5 days ago. Have you all forgotten how mad Doris was at... fuyugare's post of porn?
I personally liked the porn.
Also, the game looks decent.
Doris, come back. We hardly knew you.
oh, another flamewar that I missed. Notice how I'm never around at the same time....
Waitawaitawaitaminute, I posted porn?! Why didn't anyone inform me about it?
You didn't get the memo?
Muffin, you called for some kittens?
The Socratic Method is pretty hot.
OK Doris, please call me a nigger/ asshole any time.
Columbine Colombia.
Sorry, Wolof, if you took it personally. I figured you'd be among the monkeys who read the deleted threads so you'd get it.
Is 5 days really that long in internets time?
(and I'm a little drunk)
I just stay away for a couple of days every now and then, and a new shitstorm breaks out. Works like a charm.
The Doris Post
Sorry fuygare, it was js. Your name is now cleared
Although I hear that fuygare likes goat porn...
Yeah, I like the kinda chewy, kinda half-moist feel of chèvre porn. I have nothing against regular cow porn, nor even camel porn or yak porn or whatever, but goat porn just feels right somehow.
It's cool, Smo. My dumb.
If only there was a website about such things...
It appears that we have sunk to this: MonkeyFilter: You asshole.
I think we got there a long time ago. In general though, i think things aren't that bad.
This place is getting really fucking trailer park.
Is it possible to post anything to Monkeyfilter without offending someone? I understand that this FPP might still be a little fresh in some peoples minds, but lately if it doesn't involve kittens or monkeys (unless it's a repost) we are quick to grab our soapboxes and scream at the top of our lungs. Personally I'm going to grab my lance and my good friend Sancho and find me some giants.
I`m not keen on (what I consider) trashy posts, but you got to take the good with the bad or else your living in an imaginary world(gated community).
I never looked at the "porn post", so I don`t know what it was that upset her.
It did say !PORN!, so it`s not like it was going to be bunny rabbits, butterflies and telletubbies.
btw, sheep porn is in heaven, goat porn is in hell.
or what grover said
Good points. If this is a 'community', then there will be stuff that we disagree with and even find offensive. There will also be responses that are probably a little overdone.
Has anyone clicked it with the sound on? Don't.
Blah blah blah... Fark. Blah blah blah... MeFi. Blah blah blah... asshole.
Another run-of-the-mill day in cyberspace.
...uh...
Smo made me laugh.
yeah, but you're supposed to know everything!
I know more now about airline catering than I ever thought I'd know.
I might actually move this off the front page since, like the porn post, it's kind of trainwrecky. Crunchy, but not fulfilling. Also, I struggle to get ActuallySettle's point, but that's irrelevant.
I kind of thought it was a bit of a joke, that he complained about the old-school style of it, not the content.
Old-school is no joke!
I got Smo's joke, but I liked the Doris Exploding Head so much I wish every thread had one.
(the link is down, any screenshots? I'd like to make up my own mind abouthow offensive the link was.)
Personally I'm going to grab my lance and my good friend Sancho and find me some giants.
I have no idea what you are talking about, but I completely agree. These carebears need to stop bitching about every other fucking post. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE POST JUST CLICK THE BACK BUTTON AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR INSIGNIFICANT LITTLE LIVES PLEASE, THANK YOU.
I am but a simple Amish man forced to use this "computer" against my will, and I must say that the entire concept of technology is offensive to me. I request you all stop your use of it and return to eating schnitz. That, or burn in hell forever.
Thank you.
Re: ActuallySettle's point: It becomes much more clear if you simply mentally dub everything he says with "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!"
Makes tons of sense then. It's also less grating than his actual posts, so it's great all around. :)
Re: ActuallySettle's point: It becomes much more clear if you simply mentally dub everything he says with "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!"
Makes tons of sense then. It's also less grating than his actual posts, so it's great all around. :)
Why don't you cry more.
Waah! Waah! I don't like his posts! Waah!!
classy.
*chuckle*
Why don't you cry more.
Waah! Waah! I don't like his posts! Waah!!
smallish bear, your past couple of posts could easily be restated as "I don't likehis poststhe direction this conversation is taking! Waah!!"
I'll extend the same advice to you (rephrased a little more diplomatically) that you have given to others in this thread: Please relax. It's just the internet. Besides, we discuss links here, and if it's a shitty link, saying so is not exactly out of line.
[can we please stop with the doris pile-on, though? it's over. move on.]
Doris the spider?
In my defense, and I thought people would like this, honestly, I thought that this link was extremely interesting if bizarre. It looks like a fun game. Obviously the length and girth of my rabid , foaming individualism prevented me from understanding how others would interperet this link.
I'm sorry that some people think I did it to get attention. Why I would seek attention in what is essentially an anonymous forum is beyond my comprehension, of course.
If anyone was wondering, I'm like, a really cool guy and don't really spend a lot of time bothering online communities with obnoxious shit, especially when it's nice out.
It is nice out. Maybe 78F tomorrow.
"I'm like, a really cool guy"
!
I would like to humbly comment that I really like ActuallySettle, and that he appears to be quite an intelligent dude, the tastelessness or otherwise of this particular post notwithstanding.
Also, he's made my piss my pants laughing on more than a couple of occaisions, and furthermore in the ranking of attention-seeking dickheads he rates far, far behind that "kwiknonk cod" guy or whoever.
I, too, would like to tip my hat to ActuallySettle, despite this post. It seems he's always about one or two steps away from being banninated and I like that edge he's walking along. Anyone who jangles the keys of society by starting a school porn club is okay in my book.
He's also a really cool guy, apparently...
So am I. And I have a massive cock.
sorry - mistype. That should be "... a massive pepsi".
*sips beverage*
I fail to see what this has to do with the new Mel Quidnunc movie, "The Pepsi of the Light" in which geeky Internets users become enlightened via carbonated beverages.
Hi pete!
are you enlightened il Papa Quid?
So am I. And I have a massive cock.
Is this another "chicken" thread?
Hi, pete and quid!
Hi the_bone!
I am a massive cock.
and bong. So where were you two days ago??
Steeping in my juices in a basement rec room. Did I miss something?
only 4:20 dude! Duuuuude!
Cocks and bongs have invaded the thread
Tracicle help
us suck and smoke them
too many
four in each hand two under each armpit
Is that a riddle?
Narc.
An armpit cockbong?
That's just a few syllables away from awesomeness.
*paging David Cronenberg, David Cronenberg, line 8190*
Damn, Doris has only been gone a week, and she's already MoFi urban legend...
She'll be back. Just watch for new user siroD.
This is pretty good, actually.
What, it's too early to laugh at teenagers and their murders? I dunno. Maybe I shouldn't be playing the Leopold and Loeb Mastermind game... Or the Manson Family Twister...
"That joke's as lame as FDR's legs! . . . What, too soon?"
-Brian from "Family Guy"
In this case, yeah. But this thread has coughed up some fun things too.
So the link is working again. I don't think there needed to be a huff.
i think it's profoundly offensive, and posting it is like posting an Aryan Race link saying "this good". To smallish bear's point, yeah I can click away from it but I'm not coming to MoFi that often for Aryan Race links - I can click away from those too. The game and the post are extremely indifferent to the tragedy - that's why it's offensive. If a murderer shot your sister in cold blood and someone made a game out of it - why would that not be offensive? This isn't fictional, it's a true, gruesome, heinous crime. How can trivializing it be okay with anyone? Does your dick get bigger for not caring? Are the carebears threatening you? Do you need TP for your bunghole?
yeah well they made terroriswm in nicaragua so stfu
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durrrrr /: (
Tewowism. Tewowism is wot bwings us togeder tooday. Tewowism, that bwessed awangment, that dweam wifin a dweam...
Putting aside my normal snarky persona for a bit, I'll relate a tale which may explain my irritation with this thread:
My first high school teaching position was at Santana High School. I taught there from 1997 until 1999.
On the day of the shootings (in 2001, after I moved to Florida), I heard about the shootings on NPR. I missed the beginning of the segment and almost drove off the road when they said "a high school in Santee, California." Knowing that there were only two high schools in the city I pulled off the freeway (in a really shitty part of town) and called my dad, who confirmed that it was Santana.
The next day I went to work, but picked up a copy of the newspaper- of course, the shootings were on the front page. I took it into my classroom before school began reading it, and saw on a map of the school that one of the shootings took place right by what was once my classroom.
So I went home.
In subsequent days I learned that a former student was among those wounded, and another former student was quoted in a paper talking about the shootings. I hadn't taught there for almost two years, but it still directly touched my life in a small way.
So, you can see how I might actively dislike this post.
(more in a bit)
Now, what does this have to do with MonkeyFilter?
I don't think that people here need to be treated like delicate flowers. There is some truth to the "just don't click the link" thought, and lord knows that there's no way anyone could have known in advance that there was a member of the community who would have a very visceral reaction to this post.
But for the fucking sake of fuck, people... don't you think there's something wrong with the following chain of events?
1) Immature jerk posts something to MoFi that he knows will be offensive to a couple of people.
2) He gets called out...
3) and those people get shouted at for expressing their opinion?
4) profit! ok, back to my point...
Post whatever you want to the front page. I don't give a fuck. But if someone calls you out on a post that you knew would be offensive in the first place, don't be a fucking whiner about it. And that goes for the "don't click on the link" posse too. We discuss links here, folks. And if part of that discussion involves someone pointing out that the link sucks like a two-dollar 'ho trying to earn twenty dollars, so be it. ActuallySettle, although it may not seem like it sometimes, is an adult, and he knew this post was gonna get a rise out of some people. It's his constitutionally-protected right to be a jackass troll, but you don't have to fall all over yourselves saying how great that is. He posted an inflammatory link, he's now officially got his "exploding head" as of this comment, and he can fight his own sad internet-facilitated battles as a result of posting "the crap of the web."
And if BlueHorse can't pull at least five good taglines out of that last comment, I'll eat my shirt.
MonkeyFilter: If BlueHorse can't pull at least five good taglines out of that last comment, I'll eat my shirt.
Sorry, I have no self-control
Beautiful.
I believe we should punish EVERYBODY on the earth.
MonkeyFilter: Sorry, I have no self-control.
Sorry, I have no self-control
MonkeyFilter: Sorry, I have no self-control.
Sorry, I have no self-control
Sorry, I have no self-control
Making jokes of the Columbine tragedy is just as horrible as making jokes of the Simpson murders, or making jokes about Micheal Jackson and child molestation, or Ed Gein or Dahmer jokes, or pope hitler jokes or shuttle explosion jokes or prison rape jokes or knock-knock jokes— okay, not knock-knock jokes. I guess we can keep those.
Jokes are a way of dealing with pain, but this post still sucked.
I like it when Johnny Cash says "I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die."
Am I a bad person?
No, but Johnny Cash is. *insert dead guy joke here*
I actually like it better when the Beastie Boys say it.
Well-said, the_bone.
MonkeyFilter: for the fucking sake of fuck, people
MonkeyFilter: If that link sucks like a two-dollar 'ho trying to earn twenty dollars, then so be it.
ain't nobody here but us chickens.
MonkeyFilter: Ain't nobody here but us chickens
Fuck all you fuckers right in the fuck hole. And your fucking chickens too.
Yeah, that's right.
be careful, boys . . . he's Nickdangerous.
3) and those people get shouted at for expressing their opinion?
It's one thing to express distaste for a single link, esp. for good reason.
It's quite another if you don't like a particular poster, you come into one of their threads, and you post something focusing more on why you don't like them than on the post itself.
I didn't click the link. I don't necessarily disagree with the people who find it offensive or inappropriate.
I've said before: "No one that easily offended has any business being on the internet." That's not entirely true. Everyone has their soft spot(s). You can click around, and you risk coming across something that offends you. For normal human beings, this isn't much of a problem. They realize that not everyone feels the way they do, and don't hold it against them when they don't. The material is easily avoided (AS didn't name the link "fuzzy puppies," that would've made him a cock), the posts are quickly whisked away to the archives, and we can get on with our lives. Some people though, have difficulty dealing with people they disagree with. They prefer to hold grudges, and act like passive agressive little crybabies, flaming other users out of context, and writing code so they don't have to read responses from people they don't like.
Am I leaving myself open to another accusation of hypocrisy? I'm not calling anyone out for an FPP I don't like. I'm referring to childish passive agressive behavior (mine's just agressive AFAIK), baiting, and insulting posts. I oppose posts that discourage others from posting links to the FP that may offend the small vocal minority. Childish callouts like the one's I was bitching about cheapen legitimate concerns like the_bone's.
one's
*commits sepuku*
onesies?
PNZORED
Hmmm...who do I agree with here? I'm just not sure. Is it the carebears, cyberbabies, apologists, contrarians, mercenaries, mediators, fearmongers, revisionists, freemasons, or holly hobbies?
I don't know that there's any such thing as "netiquette" -- this isn't bona fide social interaction, really. So it seems that rules can't apply if there's nothing invested and at stake.
How is this not legitimate social interaction?
I suppose it is social interaction on some level. I have just noticed that people behave differently online, when they can be anonymous, distant, and insulated from other users. No big revelation. People can assume any persona and "do" anything they want as far as posting, comments, etc. go (unless you attract the attention of the men in black). You might get banned, but what is that the social equivalent of? Exile? Prison? Where's the sanction? You're shunning a screen name.
To state the obviouos, online communities do not have the dynamics of real world, intertwined communities. Unless I develop an individual relationship with someone online and correspond personally or otherwise we become part of one another's lives, then people online are just characters in a narrative.
ActuallySettle might be on another continent, or he(?) might be my boss, sitting in the next office. He can post something nasty and I can rip him a new one. Or not. In practical terms, it doesn't matter. No relationship. Can't do that on the outside.
I suppose that what I'm trying to express in a poor fashion, is that on the internet, others cannot have an influence on you for good or ill, because of the nature of the medium. So I don't think social conventions apply the same way they do in actual society. Unless somebody sets "rules."
Sorry, shouldn't think so much
onesies?
posted by petebest at 10:17PM UTC on April 28, 2005
my boy wears lots of these. four or five a day, depending on how often he spits up...
OK, never mind.
It puts the lotion in the basket?
I can sort of see your point, cynnbad, but just because people *can* behave any way they want to online, doesn't mean it's generally accepted. I govern my behavior online the same way I do IRL, because I know I'm dealing with real people. When someone behaves irresponsibly just because he can hide behind an anonymous screen name, I can be pretty sure that person is just as much of a shithead IRL. Internet society is a direct reflection of real life society.
Also, you should *always* side with the Freemasons (if you know what's good for you).
I'm still not convinced. Although most people would automatically extend conventional courtesies online, it isn't really necessary because there's no real recourse.
And Giant Squid, I see your point and raise you two.
I guess my ultimate point is that any "offensive" post or comment here is automatically neutralized by the fact that it is anonymous, and it will ultimately disappear into the e-sphere. It does not land and stick to anything relevant.
sorry again. nappies, anyone?
Yes, as a matter or fact I am trying to keep this alive. No can do in the real world. People forget.
forget what?
Never forget
Two simple words
That we may often avow
Yet to our regret
We often do
While slipping through the now
When tears are dried
And the blood washed clean
And the grieving led aside
The masses turn
To the latest scene
We never really learn
)!
thanks, Alnedra. Yes, I was a small part of it. I still think about it. I think it's my project now -- divorcing people from events and phenomena. If we are separated we are not that much affected. Beautiful sentiment.
so are you saying that you cannot transfer emotion through an electronic print medium?
One. That "one" cannot transfer emotion through an electronic print medium.
One. That "one" cannot transfer emotion through an electronic print medium.
It's not the fact that it's electronic. Essentially, an electronic print medium is just as good for transfering emotion as a paper print medium, and I don't think many people would argue that print essays, articles and books are able to transfer emotion quite well. It's the anonymity. (I spelled that correctly on my first try, go me.) We cannot empathize with the author if we do not know who the author is.
Isn't George Will or Noam Chomsky anonymous?
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